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Lethargic and dropping limbs.
« Thread Started on Jul 16, 2006, 12:21am »

Here are the posts i have posted at HCA:

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1. Substrate used? playsand

2. Humidity % level in crabitat? 75

3. Temperature of substrate in crabitat? no gauge there.

4. Temperature of crabitat? 80

5. Location of gauges? Humidity on top of pink hiding place because it no longer sticks. Temp on side close to sand.

6. What is your heat source? None. I don't need one until fall. I will be getting a UTH.

7. Types of water available? Bottled.

8. Dechlorinator used? no

9. What do you feed? fresh

10. How long have you had the crab in question? GRR. I'm SUCH an idiot. I've had him since last year. It's been happening for a few days now!
11. Do you know the species? PP

12. Do you bath them, if so how often and with what? I have a salt water pool in their tank that bubbles. I used to have a fresh water pool last week, but I removed it.

13. What type of housing are they in? Tank? Plastic box? tank

14. What size is your tank? 20L

15. How many crabs are in the tank? What size are they? 5

King: Jumbo
Big Guy: Medium
Cookie: small
Stinky: small
Craz-E: small

16. How deep is the substrate?i think about 3 inches

17. If you take your hermies out daily to exercise, do you mist their gill area first? No; this would stress them out.

18. Has there been any cleaners, paints, perfumes, air fresheners, candles, or smoking near the crabitat?Not currently.

19. How often do you clean/sterilize and how? Whenever it gets dirty, I use water, then dry it and replace substrate...

20. Any unusual odors? a little, but it is gone now. i think it was the food.

21. Do you use sponges? Are they rinsed daily with dechlor water? Are they exchanged every 2 days for a sterile one? none

22. Do you feed fresh food? When do you remove it? every day

23. Are your hands clean before handling? yes

24. Has there been anything new added to your crabitat recently? i have cleaned off the half log. I had it before, though. That's about it.

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t's stress. His BP fell off. Now what do i do? The best thing I can do until maybe tomorrow for right now as far as isolation is put him in a half log-like thing because i don't have any sand.

What have I been doing wrong? Can it also be premolt? Was it Stinky? i have never seen Cookie attakced by anyone, though. Maybe it was the water i was using that had added minerals. The reason I was using it was because it was all I had.

The only thing I can think of is PPS, but it had already molted with me and I have had it for a long time now!

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ow he has dropped 2 more limbs because:

1. Because my littlest hermit crab got into the half log thing.
2. When I was making it more secure by putting the half log against the tank wall.

I have now put a container with holes around it with water, food, and a cuttlebone. I don't think that it'll be able to move until it molts again, because ALL of the legs on the BP's side are gone. Maybe it'll come up with some way to maneuver itself.

EDIT: I have also checked out why it might have lost it on hermit-crabs.com. Seems that it didn't lose any limbs for any of the reasons mentioned there:

I have ALSO looked at the pages on here and on seashellshop.com. I don't think any of those have happened, unless there was a fight between 2 crabs when I wasn't home or when I was sleeping.

Also, here are the questions from on here:

1. Substrate used in crabitat? In iso? Playsand. The only thing I was able to do was put a plastic container around it until I get more sand.

.....A. What is the depth of the substrate? 3 inches

.....B. Is the substrate moist or dry? moist kind of.

2. Humidity percentage level in crabitat? In iso? 75

.....A. What style of humidity gauge do you use? (Dial or digital) dial

.....B. Where is the gauge located in the crabitat? (top, middle,
Substrate level…left side, middle, or right side of tank?) Right now it is on a pink hut because it fell off before.

.....C. Are there any water sources near where the gauge is located? No.

.....D. Did you test the humidity gauge for accuracy? (by calibrating
It?) no. Please tell me how.

3. Temperature of substrate in crabitat? In iso? i dont have gauge there

4. Air temperature of crabitat? (what the inside wall thermometer
reads) In iso? 80

.....A. Where is the thermometer located within the crabitat? close to bottom in the center

5. All items and decorations within the crabitat? In iso? half log, pink plastic huts, staues, needed stuff, fake plants, bubbling pool of salt water

.....A. Were items boiled that could be boiled, baked that could be
baked, or washed with hot water prior to being placed within the
crabitat? most of them were.

6. What type of water is offered to the hermies? (bottle or dechlor tap
water?) bottled

.....A. If you use a dechlorinator what brand do you use?

.....B. How often to you exchange the water for fresh water? every few days except for salt water because it uses too much water to replace every few days. i keep a close eye on it to see if there's anything wrong with it and also stick my hands in it.

.....C. What do you use as water dishes? ( and how deep are they?) 1 plastic for salt water pool, 1 non-metalic one

7. Do you offer an ocean water source?salt water

.....A. What brand name of 'ocean' water do you use? HBH Hermit Crab Salt. i think I need to switch, though, because they don't give you as much as IO.

.....B. How do you prepare the ocean water offered? (amount of
dechlor water to ocean mix) what it says + 1/2 teasthingy of salt

.....C. Is it shaken after being mixed, and before offering? yeah

.....D. Is it left to sit and dissolve for at least 12-24 hours? no

.....E. If you have an ocean pool with a filter, how often do you
change the filter? dont have a filter

.....F. When the ocean water level becomes low in the pool, do you
add more fresh or ocean water to raise the water level? yeah

8. What are all the foods offered in main crabitat? (commercial and fresh) fresh. All safe. i have read epicurean hermit a bunch of times. i've fed them A LOt of stuff.

.....A. If you offer fresh fruits, veggies, and meats within the crabitat
How long are they left in the crabitat before you replace them
with fresh foods? every day

.....B. If you offer commercial dry foods, how often are they
replaced?

.....C. Is the substrate checked daily for fresh foods that may have
been dragged out of the food dish and removed?yeah

9. What are all the foods offered to a recovering molter after they eat their exo? cuttle bone and fresh foods.

10. What type of crabitat do you have? (glass, acrylic critter keeper, plastic, other) glass

.....A. What gallon size crabitat do you have? (if not known what are
the measurements?) 20L

.....B. How many hermies do you have in your crabitat? 5

.....C. Is there a second level to the crabitat?no

.....D. What type of lid do you have on the crabitat? plastic wrap until i get a regular lid.

11. Type/form of heat source used on main crabitat? On iso? (lights, an
UTH sold for reptiles, or other source…if other please explain) i will be using an UTH when winter comes

.....A. If you use a light on the crabitat, what size watt is it?

.....B. Is it extend on ½ or all of the tank top?

.....C. Do you provide a night and day cycle?

.....D. If you use a Reptile UTH for what size tank is it rated for? (if
not known what is its length and width measurements? I don't have it for the 20L yet.

12. How long you have had the hermie/hermies? since some time last year. Maybe in the fall or winter.

.....A. Have they molted since living with you? yes

.....B. If so, were there any complications? (limb loss, didn’t eat their
exo, etc.?) no

13. Were they bought from the same pet store/place? not all

14. What species of hermies do you have? Es, PPs, and one ruggie that isn't with that one. it is in the 10 gallon.

.....A. What style and type of shell are they wearing? (Painted or
natural) natural. I think it might be a conch or something. I'll get a pic after I'm done.

.....B. What style and type of extra shells do you offer? natural. I'm unsure of what types.

15. Do you bath your hermies? I have a pool in there for them.

.....A. If so how often and do you add anything to the water?

.....B. What is the water temperature if you bath your hermies?

.....C. Where do they exercise/drip dry off afterwards?

.....D. Is the area they drip dry at warm?

16. If you take your hermies out to exercise or play, do you mist their gill area first? No. i'm afraid this'll give them stress.

17.. Has there been any cleaners, paints, perfumes, air fresheners, (including plug in's), candles, smoking, any form of 'smells/odors' where their crabitat is? (remember, even though one may use an air
freshener in one room, including deodorants, etc...the scent does travel) Not in the same room. And the one time when I told my mom that they can't have that, she yelled at me. : (

.....A. Are all hand lotions, or other smells/odors washed off of your
hands prior to handling the hermies? (including scented soap) yes

18. How often do you sterilize/deep clean the crabitat & how do you sterilize it? when it gets dry I use tap water and let it dry or dry it myself so it doesnt hurt them. Well, my mom usually does it.

.....A. What do you use to clean/wash the inside of the crabitat? tap water, but I let it dry

.....B. How often do you spot clean the crabitat for hermie wastes? once a day.

.....C. Has there ever been any pests noted within the crabitat? (ants,
mites, gnats, etc.?) not in that one, but there were bugs in the 10 gallon swarming all over the cuttlebone.

.....D. Has there ever been any mold or mildew noted in the crabitat? Mold, but I got the sutff that was molding out.

.....E. Where are the hermies when the tank is deep cleaned? I usually watch them while my mom is cleaning it, or I have them in a plastic cage while i help my mom clean it.

19. Are there any odors/smells 'within' the crabitat ? there was before, but it is gone

.....A. If so what would you relate the odor to? unsure

.....B. Is there an odor on the hermies? there was, but it is gone.

.....C. If there is, what would you relate the smell to? unsure

20. Do you use sea sponges in the water supply? no

.....A. Are the sponges rinsed daily with dechlorinated water?

.....B. Are the sponges exchanged at 'least' every 2 days for fresh
sterile ones?

21. Have you added anything new to the crabitat recently…new substrate, decorations, changed water dechlorinators or ocean water mix? i have put the half log back in after cleaning it.

If there is something you feel is also relevant that has not asked here, please do include it. This will all be needed for us to try help troubleshoot if there is a potential problem.

This isn't really a question, but your help template is WAY BETTER than HCA's! Nice job!

****Please copy these questions and begin another post by selecting "New Topic" with the subject being "Troubleshooting Crabitat", paste the questions in the new topic here under "emergency" and answer them to the best of your ability.

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Re: Lethargic and dropping limbs.
« Reply #1 on Jul 17, 2006, 11:23pm »

Well, it died. :'(

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Re: Lethargic and dropping limbs.
« Reply #2 on Jun 14, 2008, 5:54pm »

Jul 17, 2006, 11:23pm, Angela wrote:

Well, it died. :'(

Well, it died. :'(

Well, it died. :'(

Well, it died. :'(

Well, it died. :'(

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Jul 17, 2006, 11:23pm, Angela wrote:

Well, it died. :'(